Thursday, March 27, 2008

Pancham beyond any other music director

This is truly a vivid analysis by our very own Shashi Rao, worth reading...

Shashi,
I have only one thing for you, sincerely Bow.gif

It totally amazes me about the depth of your observation and moreover the ease and simplicity of conveying your findings to the "aam-junta". I'm taking liberty of saving this post for your reference, truly very very well written.

thanks for sharing your thoughts with us.

Here's what Shashi has to say....

1. Firstly let me say that crap is universal - there is no direction to it. There are enough instances of mulch marketed as art in every movie sector - be it Hindi, southie production, Punjabi film or a Chiranjeet's Bangla action thriller.

Now what can an MD do about it. Quite a few things. MDs have refused illogical words, cheap words and even suggested changes. For instance Pancham was hesistant of even making Lata say the word 'badmaashiyon' written by Gulzar. The MD has to willingly participate in the making of an item song. These are experienced music composers (most of them) who know what the output sounds like.

Pancham had only a few instances of sheer desperation - and mostly in the 90s where he agreed for either a 'Main Na Jhooth Bolun' or a 'Step by Step' or 'Dil To Chaahe Hamaara', etc. Even then he has been foolishly candid (foolish - from a self-marketing perspective) to complain about the detierorating words.

An MD can rise above the words if needed. At the same time, an MD can become careless and compose mindlessly.

In Boppi's instance this happened due to his sheer overload of work, his penchant to lift music, his strategy to record 5-8 songs a day. Where is the time to nourish the tunes?

Forget the Padmalaya banner movies, Boppi was lackluster even in his other ventures in the 90s. I like Boppi's earlier works - be it Aap Ki Khaatir, Manokamna, Toote Khilone, Aangan Ki Kali, Lahu Ke Do Rang, etc. Even in the 80s he would still provide one odd good song in movies like Taxi Chor, Laparwah, etc.

However his music compositions degraded wherein his arrangements were half-hearted, his interlude music pieces were completely uninspired.

Many would point to his output for Prakash Mehra. I only see Boppi carrying on KA's tradition with Prakash Mehra. Even there KA far exceeded Boppi in giving the masti-bhara Kishore Kumar numbers.

Pancham on the other hand - his music never suffered. In fact in the 90s you will find him completely adventurous in music arrangement. Take albums like Gunhegar Kaun, Jeene Do, Parinda, Gurudev, Chor Pe Mor, Khule Aam, Siyaasat - he gave mind-blowing music pieces. In fact it almost seemed as if he cared 2 hoots for what people wanted. Only in rare instances did he attempt to compete with the prevalent LP - say in Alag Alag or tried a SJ in Awaara Baap.

Even when he did not have the right resources - as in Anyay Hi Anyay - he still managed to churn out some decent music arrangements. His non-filmi albums Dil Tera Hua or Tera Mera Pyar Jawan are still quite experimental to date. Lots of people complain of it being too electronic - I find this as a different sound he was experimenting with.

Even in the 80s when Pancham was the most overworked - he rarely allowed his quality to suffer. In fact he confidently composed beauties like Zameen Aasmaan, Ram Tere Kitne Naam, Sunny, Andar Bahar, etc. You would not find him reusing his same arrangements - repeating work with the same singers and lyricists.

In fact in the 90s post Rafi and KK - Pancham experimented the most with the singers. Sure many of his attempts backfired. But he did not sit comfortable dependant on Asha and Amit and borrow whatever was succeeding. Instead he was still being innovative with a Sudesh Bhosle, Babla Mehta, Gautam Mukerjee, Kavita, Alka, Jayshree Shivram, etc.

The difference between LP, Boppi, KA and RR on one side - and Pancham on the other is - the amount of compromise a composer would make to be in the rat race. Pancham bemoaned the fact that he did not get enough work - but he NEVER compromised to get work or to succeed. If he made a 'Boliyan Ve Boliiyan' or a 'Seene Mein Shole' or a 'Maine Kaha Tumne Suna' - he made it as per his wishes. If the director tried to impose - as in the case of Oonche Log, Dacait, Indrajeet - the difference is quite apparent. Pancham went overboard to admit his compromise.

I have never ever heard or read either LP or Boppi admit to ripping Mori Kante - I heard them backbite each other on who made a better Jumma Chumma or a Tamma Tamma.

So to return to your point - I do believe Pancham made some compromises - but the instances are so few to dim his creativity. Even if a lyricist gave him a line like 'I am a sexy playboy' or 'Baat Thi Yaar Ek Bair Ki' or 'Sholo Se Garam Ho' or 'Duniya Kii Aabaadi Mein Aayega Zalzala', etc. - he managed to still churn out....dunno why I suddenly remember my friend Dr. Viyakar - the word is aah "humdinger!!!".

2. Ok...I have to admit - out of the Bangla movies you mention - I have only heard Birodh, Kalidas and Purshottam properly. The remaining I am saving - need something to look forward for the next few years. Hence I can comment only on these movies. And let me also admit - I have no clue of the meaning of Bangla lyrics - am language challenged when it comes to Bangla.

However - I can read RD Burman or Rahul Dev Burman in any language. I am still proud of digging out a Kalidas - when 2 of my esteemed and veteran Bengali friends could not.

Anyways - Birodh was a dual language movie - I find both Shatru and Birodh with potential. As far as Pancham is concerned - he rose above even horrible lyrics in Hindi - what was it 'Babuji Dil Doge...Dil Lene Ka Dil Dene Ka Mausam Aa Gaya'. If someone showed this line to Dada Burman - tandav!!!

Purshottam seems to be growing on me day by day - be it the Amit Kumar number or 'Dit Paari' sung by a audibly tired/ailing Pancham.

As for no one remembering any song from these movies, I do not have the details - but I would have these questions:
1. How well was the music marketed?
2. How timely was the movie made and delivered to screen?
3. The fate of the movie

In the 90s most movies stopped having the 25 week silver jubilee runs. Even then...there was always 3-4 movies released every week. In those days the only people who succeeded (read Subhash Ghai, Yash Chopra, the Barjatyas, etc.) were the ones who invested in marketing their product. Then even if you had a weak product like 'Hum Tumhare Hain Kaun' or 'Khalnayak' - you still got attention and limited time adulation.

Imagine if the same amount of effort was spent on a Gurudev or Siyaasat or Rama O Rama - they would've succeeded more than what they received.

The same I believe would apply for Bangla movies. In case of Purshottam I do know that Pancham was closely associated with both Biswajeet and Prasanjeet - so there is no refusing that movie. In fact when I heard it was Prasanjeet's directorial debut - I purchased the VHS of this movie. Alas even though hiis intent was good his narration was muddled and amateurish.

As for your statistics that 90% of times Boppida's associated with his southern remake outputs - well...if we did do an analysis of his assignments in the 80s thru 90s - 90% of his output is/was for those banners.

One more thing - what I hated about his output was - he hardly spent any time composing. Most of the numbers were direct lifts from the original Tamil or Telegu songs. It was like Boppi and Indivar and Arun Paudwal spent time doing timepass in the recording studio.

Pancham - we associate him with so many unique sounds. What was so unique or signature about Boppi in any of these numbers? Actually it was Indivar who shone more than Boppi in these songs - cause one can still recognize his 'Ooi Ooi Garmi Hai Kahan Hai' or 'Pyar Ki Gaadi Tez Chalaao'.

Boppi also composed with veteran wordsmiths like Kaifi Azmi and Amit Khanna - but in the 80s - even his 'Sachche Ka Bol Bala' or 'Ham Rahe Na Hum' sounds like his output for Indivar.

Finally I am not ignoring Boppi's worthy output - in fact I have a list of my own favorites. But none of them I listen for their music arrangement. These are good...some even great songs. But only to listen. Nothing there for me to go "ooh...check out those drum beats" or "wow.....what a riff on guitar" or "omygosh...what is that sound".

Pancham was and is the only music composer - who went on extended vacations during his music pieces - be it interlude or M1/M2/M3 music.

As I had mentioned - I think we have gone beyond Pantera - my last post on this thread. Thanks for being patient to my ramblings.

Shashi

Monday, March 24, 2008

Jose Flores mail - II

Here is part two, of two notes written to Vinay Jain of the Pancham group. The comments from Jose Flores, lyricist for Pantera, English album composed by Pancham-da


Hi Vinay.


Well I am glad you got the reply I wrote I did not know if it went through. Yes I know it is Punchams birthday in a few days. I always remember him on that day and on the other day.

Well I have to think about some of the things that were going on but one funny thing happened. It was when Puncham walked out of the recording studio and no one knew where he was for about 8 hours when decided to take a self guided tour of the City. I guess he was waking around downtown San Francisco. Of course we were recording in the downtown area of the City and the area is urban and sometimes quite risky especially if you dont know which sections are bad or
good. However, Puncham fit right in with the City scene and always looked cool so no one ever messed with him. In fact he was usually greeted by people as if they knew him everywhere we went. So later on several hours we were all in front of the studio and it was getting dark when he pulled up in a taxi cab loaded with bags of clothing, shoes, shirts and jackets inside shopping bags from some of the best stores and tailors in the City . The producer Pete Gavankar was so relieved when he saw him that he almost cried..Puncham just cracked up at us and showed off his new grey Members Only Jacket which he was wearing and said...dont worry Im a City
boy I know my way around... every one had to help him carry his bags back into the studio about 20 bags in all. It took the cabbie five min to unload...I think he gave the cabbie two $20.00 bills or like a $40.00 tip on top of his $ 5 fare and the cabbie was all smiles..

That was Puncham, drama, generosity, style... what a guy.

I think it is time for a toast to my friend with double Johnny Walker and 555 cigarette while I listen to him sing a Gypsy song...

Thanks and keep in touch.

JF

Jose Flores mail - I

Here are two notes written to Vinay Jain of the Pancham group. The comments from Jose Flores, lyricist for Pantera, English album composed by Pancham-da

Dear Vinay:

Thank you for your invitation. Puncham and I were very close and we had a great time working together. I learned a great deal about life and not just music. I have a few stories but don't know where to start.

Puncham was the funniest person I had ever met and he made me laugh all the time.

On the same day he arrived in San Francisco, Puncham gave me a gift of some traditional clothes, (silks) that he had brought with him (a Kurta and a Loongi) and some sandles.

Later on that evening we were at his suite at the hotel with our producer Pete Gavankar and
the producer suggested I try on the silks. Puncham was hungry and had changed from travel clothing to the same kind of clothing (Loongi and Kurta) By then I had tried on the silks and thought they were really cool...SInce He also had the same clothes and felt comfortable he said well lets go eat... I said dressed like this and Puncham said yes... lets go just like this...so we put on some sandles and while still dressed in the silks went out on the town to the most exclusive, expensive and fanciest seafood restaurant in San Francisco where we told the Tuxedo wearing staff that Puncham was the crown prince of Bombay... we got the best service I have ever had ....and they referred to him as your Royal Highness during the whole meal...and you know what he really was a prince so it was fun... he really impressed everyone including the owner who personally came to ask for his autograph... We laughed about that dinner every chance we got whan we talked about it.

Later on a few years ago, Asha came to San Francisco and we had lunch at the same place... we sat at he same table and remembered Puncham fondly...

I really miss the guy...

Thanks

keep in touch

Jose Flores




Tuesday, March 18, 2008


This must be one of the best tribute todate....can't wait to see the documentary....fantastic work by Shri Brahmanand Singh....our heartfelt thanks.

Tuesday, March 11, 2008

Rafi-Sahab sings for Pancham: my liking

Brilliance of Rafi-ji and Pancham-Jadu was evident on their earliest days around 1965/1966 when you think that the very 1st song recording of Nassir-ji' big banner, starring then Superstar Shammi Kapoor, was ok after first-take. Can you guess the song? It's the magical number - O Haseena Zulfo Wali Jaane Jana....7 mins of brilliance, only by Rafi-Pancham team....

Another magnificent composition and singing by Rafi-ji in Chandan Ka Palna, Zulfon Ko Aap Yun


Another blockbuster till today, came out in 1971, Caravan; Rafi-ji and Lata-ji in super melodious form. And the tune? Out of this world. Rafi-ji leads in all form...Kitna Pyara Wada Hai..There is absolutely very few duets that can even come closer to this one in composition, singing, orchestration...over 5 mins of immense pleasure, as a bonus gets Pancham's Mouthorgan....

Wadiyan Mera Daman...What a sweeet melody? Listen to the choice of instruments and above all Magnum-Rafi-Sahab's rendering...total justice to a very very hummmmmable melody!!!! Ufffff!!!!

Zamane Ne Mare Jawaan Kaise Kaise...
One of my all time best. I think the pain of suffering soul is very evident in this composition and off course out-of-this-world singing!!!!!! Just listen to the sheer power in Rafi Sahab's singing in Zameen Kha Gayee Aasmaan Kaise Kaise......rhythm of "Zamane Ne Mare", it could be well played in tabla only but our Pancham-da's genius is such that he converted would be simple rhythm into an ear-pleasing-theka.......Rafi Sahab's way of saying Zameeen Khaa Gaaayeee......truely brings out the pain in this tune...Vaah!!! Waah!!! :Bow:


in 1969 Pancham came up with a tune that rocked the world...Rafi-ji's super romantic singing won all hearts....and is still winning as it's been played around the globe...Tum Bin Jaun Kahan-- it's a pleasure to listen to it over and over and over. Rafi Sahab's powerful and soul touching singing brought Pancham-da's tune to life.

Pal Do Pal Ka Saath Hamara - another masterpiece...integral to Rafi-Pancham jugalbandi. Variations in composition were executed with utmost excellence. Splendid fusion of Hindusthani traditional and string instruments.


Maine Poocha Chand Se - excellent singing by Rafi-Sahab and a super melodic tune, singing and orchestration certainly are out of this world. Amazing selection of instruments by Pancham. The Sax itself is a Diamond in the song. I simply love the creative rhythm pattern. What a magical way of playing "tabla" and other percussion, totally changes the overall effect.

Kabhi Kabhi Aisa Bhi To...from Waris...one of my very favourites....it just get better with each passing note...I simply can't think of any other artists singing this one. A very very captivating song...more so of "rhythm" -- how creative????? I was just listening to this one over the weekend. Sweeeeet melody.

Sanson Mein Kabhi Dil Me...from Parchhaiyan, particularly if you listen to the part where Rafi Sahab sings Kabhi Bairi Hai To Kya Tum Humse Juda..... what a beautiful composition, orchestration and off course soul-touching singing.

Mujhse Bhala Yeh Kajal Tera... - if you think the base tune is from "South India Raga"; but Pancham's creative genius composed that into a splendid, memorable masterpiece. Rhythm rules in this one from start to end...only Pancham-da could create such non-traditional beats that totally change the overall listening pleasure. And who else but Sahensa Rafi gave the perfect justice to the melody.

Pucho Na Yaar Kya Hua from Zamane Ko Dikhana Hai is absolutely stunning in all respects. Beautiful would be an understatement. It has everything - good melody, spell bounding rhythm and brilliant singing by Rafi-Sahab. In fact if you listen to the Bangla version and compare, this one certainly stands out for totally different treatments.

Nagma Hamara Gayae Ga Sara Zamana....so very true...Sara Zamana is Singing.... isn't it? This was composed and recorded 30 yrs ago, but still this one is sooooo modern, yet periodic. What a beauty this one is?????

Friday, March 7, 2008

DVD of "Tribute To Pancham" Show

We recently had a great show "A tribute to R.D.Burman" - at
KalaMandir, Kolkata on Feb 08, 2008 with the original musicians of RD
Burman's Team. From Calcutta it was Rocket da's team who shared the
stage with them. The uniqueness of the event was that, the entire
show was instrumental without a single vocal to assist.

The DVD of "Tribute To Pancham" show is ready for release.
Priced at 250/- this double DVD should be a treat for all Panchamda fans.

Please get in touch either at bookdvd.euphony@gmail.com
OR contact at
09836927479 for further details.